Lane assist

Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-10 17:50:07 +00:00

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Apple and Google maps both have it. I prefer Apple's implementation:

Apple maps:

Google maps:

Apple and Google maps both have it. I prefer Apple's implementation: Apple maps: ![Apple-MAps-navigation-teaser](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/50382414/136707480-1f101b6a-fc5b-42cc-bc9e-dfa63cfd913b.jpg) Google maps: ![Screenshot_20211010-194505_Firefox](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/50382414/136707487-8c11d67d-32a5-4599-b0dc-32d4fbeb49f7.png)

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biodranik commented

2021-10-10 19:07:45 +00:00

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See also #1104
Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. But it's a great idea, of course.

See also #1104 Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. But it's a great idea, of course.

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starsep commented

2021-10-10 22:07:35 +00:00

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Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap.

According to taginfo turn:lanes tag has 683394 usages.
Mapping is far from being completed but another app using this data would likely cause increase in the mapping velocity - it's quite easy to map from satellite imagery.

> Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. According to taginfo [turn:lanes](https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/turn:lanes) tag has 683394 usages. Mapping is far from being completed but another app using this data would likely cause increase in the mapping velocity - it's quite easy to map from satellite imagery.

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Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-10 22:25:59 +00:00

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Mapping is far from being completed but another app using this data would likely cause increase in the mapping velocity - it's quite easy to map from satellite imagery.

Interesting

> Mapping is far from being completed but another app using this data would likely cause increase in the mapping velocity - it's quite easy to map from satellite imagery. Interesting

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TimMagee commented

2021-10-17 19:32:57 +00:00

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See also #1104 Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. But it's a great idea, of course.

Where I live, turn lanes are quite well-mapped and users expect that navigation apps will support turn-lanes.

Osmand supports turn-lanes and it almost always "just works" in my area.

> See also #1104 Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. But it's a great idea, of course. Where I live, turn lanes are quite well-mapped and users expect that navigation apps will support turn-lanes. Osmand supports turn-lanes and it almost always "just works" in my area.

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Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-17 19:38:01 +00:00

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Do we know what OSMAND's data source is?

Or can we reverse engineer their implementation?

Do we know what OSMAND's data source is? Or can we reverse engineer their implementation?

starsep commented

2021-10-18 05:37:15 +00:00

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Do we know what OSMAND's data source is?

Or can we reverse engineer their implementation?

OsmAnd is open source, no need for reverse engineering :).
Their first implementation is here: d6f1be4f80 (old commit)
It seems to be mostly implemented here https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/blob/master/OsmAnd-java/src/main/java/net/osmand/router/RouteResultPreparation.java using turn:lanes, turn:lanes:forward, and turn:lanes:backward

Edit: Please notice Apache 2 vs GPLv3 license.

> Do we know what OSMAND's data source is? > > Or can we reverse engineer their implementation? OsmAnd is open source, no need for reverse engineering :). Their first implementation is here: https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/commit/d6f1be4f80a2d7e0d9580200a1b4090729cfa694 (old commit) It seems to be mostly implemented here https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/blob/master/OsmAnd-java/src/main/java/net/osmand/router/RouteResultPreparation.java using `turn:lanes`, `turn:lanes:forward`, and `turn:lanes:backward` Edit: Please notice Apache 2 vs GPLv3 license.

Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-18 16:34:22 +00:00

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But we need the data, not the implementation.

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starsep commented

2021-10-18 16:40:50 +00:00

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But we need the data, not the implementation.

Data source is OpenStreetMap, specifically tags on ways I mentioned: turn:lanes, turn:lanes:forward, and turn:lanes:backward. Not sure I follow what's the problem here.

> But we need the data, not the implementation. Data source is OpenStreetMap, specifically tags on ways I mentioned: `turn:lanes`, `turn:lanes:forward`, and `turn:lanes:backward`. Not sure I follow what's the problem here.

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Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-18 16:49:03 +00:00

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Oh, thats great! I did not know lanes were mapped in OSM.

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Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-19 11:56:11 +00:00

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See also #1104 Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. But it's a great idea, of course.

The lanes in osmAND seem quite complete to me.

> See also #1104 Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. But it's a great idea, of course. The lanes in osmAND seem quite complete to me.

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Donkey-Doug commented

2021-10-19 12:03:41 +00:00

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Some more implementations:

Sygic:

Here wego:

I think Apple maps is the best.

Some more implementations: Sygic: ![lane-assist](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/50382414/137905456-183b69cb-b6d6-4cca-9988-f0f30ff9e00a.png) Here wego: ![Lane-assistance_0](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/50382414/137905514-3c8e302b-84a0-4da5-9557-192c38f774f0.png) I think Apple maps is the best.

zyphlar commented

2021-11-14 07:52:27 +00:00

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Here is OsmAnd's lane indicator, for sake of completeness. It's useful although the colors take awhile to get used to (red yellow and green don't really map intuitively to long medium and short distances.)

Here is OsmAnd's lane indicator, for sake of completeness. It's useful although the colors take awhile to get used to (red yellow and green don't really map intuitively to long medium and short distances.) ![](https://i.imgur.com/PXdY4mm.jpeg)

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suhridkhan commented

2021-12-30 17:53:31 +00:00

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Here is OsmAnd's lane indicator, for sake of completeness. It's useful although the colors take awhile to get used to (red yellow and green don't really map intuitively to long medium and short distances.)

Implementation just like OsmAnd should be adequate, and quite useful feature.

> Here is OsmAnd's lane indicator, for sake of completeness. It's useful although the colors take awhile to get used to (red yellow and green don't really map intuitively to long medium and short distances.) > > ![](https://camo.githubusercontent.com/5f1bba98d4fe3a4735e9800dfb846f0657b56b2b85ad723f5d30fc3b80c9e034/68747470733a2f2f692e696d6775722e636f6d2f50586459346d6d2e6a706567) Implementation just like OsmAnd should be adequate, and quite useful feature.

tibordoma commented

2022-07-18 19:55:31 +00:00

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Any updates? For me, this is quite important feature. I like also Mapy.cz implementation (they use OSM data):

Any updates? For me, this is quite important feature. I like also Mapy.cz implementation (they use OSM data):[](url) ![mapy-cz-navigace-a-dopravni-mapa-3](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/13929686/179606066-5b523ec3-70cb-42b8-a107-4866974c447e.jpg)

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alensiljak commented

2022-08-14 12:41:08 +00:00

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I like the MagicEarth's implementation:

or

I like the MagicEarth's implementation: <img src="https://www.magicearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/ME_Dash_Cam-iOS.png" width="150rem" /> or <img src="https://www.magicearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/ME_traffic-event-reporting-yellow.png" width="150rem" />

biodranik commented

2022-08-14 19:35:39 +00:00

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What does it look like 1) in the landscape? 2) in the night mode?

alensiljak commented

2022-08-14 19:43:51 +00:00

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Hi @biodranik, please see below

and

The exit shield is also well demonstrated on these screenshots, for a separate suggestion.

Hi @biodranik, please see below <img src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/462445/184552381-3b088e31-4589-459d-811a-a3395d267b4f.png" height="350px" /> and <img src="https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/462445/184552387-2ff9fc90-fdba-439a-956a-ca2e8b88d65b.png" width="350px" /> The exit shield is also well demonstrated on these screenshots, for a separate suggestion.

biodranik commented

2022-08-14 20:55:36 +00:00

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Sorry, but that's way worse than Apple or Google )

alensiljak commented

2022-08-14 21:01:28 +00:00

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Sorry, but that's way worse than Apple or Google )

If I look through the windshield, the exit shield is up and the arrows on the lanes are down. That's exactly how they are displayed here. Simple pattern matching. The implementations with the arrows placed on top of the screen are somewhat counter-intuitive to me.
Not that it would be difficult to get used to, but still. What exactly makes it "worse"?

> Sorry, but that's way worse than Apple or Google ) If I look through the windshield, the exit shield is up and the arrows on the lanes are down. That's exactly how they are displayed here. Simple pattern matching. The implementations with the arrows placed on top of the screen are somewhat counter-intuitive to me. Not that it would be difficult to get used to, but still. What exactly makes it "worse"?

biodranik commented

2022-08-15 20:43:01 +00:00

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Many people are already used to Google maps and Apple maps.
Lanes should be CLEARLY VISIBLE, even with bad eyesight.

1. Many people are already used to Google maps and Apple maps. 2. Lanes should be CLEARLY VISIBLE, even with bad eyesight.

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fw190d13 commented

2022-09-04 18:13:12 +00:00

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Hi!
Could someone from the team explain a non tech person if implementing lane assist into OrganicMaps is difficult from technical point of view?

As I understand from the previous posts all of the data is here as shown in OsmAnd.

Lane assist is useful especially in big cities with multiple lanes and many turns and crossroads and lane changes after those crossroads.

The lack of lane assist is the only road blocker for me to switch from Magic Earth.

Not trying to be rude or push for something but just trying to understand the situation.

Hi! Could someone from the team explain a non tech person if implementing lane assist into OrganicMaps is difficult from technical point of view? As I understand from the previous posts all of the data is here as shown in OsmAnd. Lane assist is useful especially in big cities with multiple lanes and many turns and crossroads and lane changes after those crossroads. The lack of lane assist is the only road blocker for me to switch from Magic Earth. Not trying to be rude or push for something but just trying to understand the situation.

biodranik commented

2022-09-04 20:42:03 +00:00

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Implementing it is not complex, as 90% of all other issues or requests. It just requires a lot of our time/resources, which are very limited at the moment :)

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ekimber commented

2022-09-26 16:04:17 +00:00

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Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap.

According to taginfo turn:lanes tag has 683394 usages. Mapping is far from being completed but another app using this data would likely cause increase in the mapping velocity - it's quite easy to map from satellite imagery.

Yes, I occasionally find incorrect or missing lanes on OsmAnd and subsequently fix them in OSM.

The clean UI and simplicity of this app is very appealing (especially compared to OsmAnd) but lane info is definitely one of the features I feel is missing.

> > Lanes are not well-mapped yet in OpenStreetMap. > > According to taginfo [turn:lanes](https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/turn:lanes) tag has 683394 usages. Mapping is far from being completed but another app using this data would likely cause increase in the mapping velocity - it's quite easy to map from satellite imagery. Yes, I occasionally find incorrect or missing lanes on OsmAnd and subsequently fix them in OSM. The clean UI and simplicity of this app is very appealing (especially compared to OsmAnd) but lane info is definitely one of the features I feel is missing.

Donkey-Doug commented

2022-09-26 16:06:05 +00:00

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Hi, could you maybe tell me how to fix lanes in OSM? There is a part of the highway near me incorrect in OSM, but I never managed to find out how to fix it.

ekimber commented

2022-09-26 19:20:33 +00:00

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It really depends on what the problem is! If you use the web editor there is a UI box for the number of lanes and you can get a link to the wiki page. So first set the physical number of lanes and then have a look at the turn:lanes tag which explains how to express different signs and markings.

Often times a mistake I see is that a one-way street has a default of 1 lane whereas a usual two-way street has a default of 2 lanes. And so people create dual-carriageways with one-way roads and forget to set lanes to 2.

It really depends on what the problem is! If you use the web editor there is a UI box for the number of lanes and you can get a link to the wiki page. So first set the physical number of lanes and then have a look at the [turn:lanes](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn) tag which explains how to express different signs and markings. Often times a mistake I see is that a one-way street has a default of 1 lane whereas a usual two-way street has a default of 2 lanes. And so people create dual-carriageways with one-way roads and forget to set lanes to 2.

pm4rcin commented

2022-10-30 12:27:38 +00:00

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I think the ideal would be to take apple's lane assist and Magic Earth's next street names (destination) signs (with road shields of course).

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