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Show speed cameras on map and allow to search for it #2579

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opened 2022-05-18 09:15:11 +00:00 by AntonM030481 · 9 comments

AntonM030481 commented

2022-05-18 09:15:11 +00:00

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It can be useful to

see speed cameras on map,
see it details when selected (maxspeed, maybe direction),
allow to search for it.

It makes easier to plan the route and encourage to add info about cameras.

It can be useful to - see speed cameras on map, - see it details when selected (maxspeed, maybe direction), - allow to search for it. It makes easier to plan the route and encourage to add info about cameras.

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10992-osm commented

2022-05-18 23:19:16 +00:00

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I think such things are illegal in certain countries, like France, so you'd have to be careful:

Take care when driving in France as all precise speed camera detection technology is illegal – whether you are using the device in your car or not. So do not have a device in your car whilst you are driving irrespective of it is turned on. This includes GPS and sat nav systems displaying fixed speed camera locations. If you are hiring a car with sat nav in France with Sixt then don’t worry, our in-vehicle systems will be compliant, however take care if you are crossing borders into France. Penalties can be harsh: a fine of up to €1,500, confiscation of the device and potentially of the vehicle. And if you break French driving laws you can also have your UK driving licence confiscated by French Police! A new network of speed cameras have recently been installed across France and many of them are not sign posted, so be cautious at all times.

I think such things are illegal in certain countries, [like France](https://www.sixt.co.uk/magazine/travel/speed-camera-detector-laws/), so you'd have to be careful: > Take care when driving in France as all precise speed camera detection technology is illegal – whether you are using the device in your car or not. So do not have a device in your car whilst you are driving irrespective of it is turned on. This includes GPS and sat nav systems displaying fixed speed camera locations. If you are hiring a car with sat nav in France with Sixt then don’t worry, our in-vehicle systems will be compliant, however take care if you are crossing borders into France. Penalties can be harsh: a fine of up to €1,500, confiscation of the device and potentially of the vehicle. And if you break French driving laws you can also have your UK driving licence confiscated by French Police! A new network of speed cameras have recently been installed across France and many of them are not sign posted, so be cautious at all times.

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habi commented

2022-05-22 21:09:24 +00:00

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In Switzerland the driver will be fined for 200 € if one has a speed-camera-warning device, also 'only' an App. In addition, the device is confiscated.

MagicEarth (for example) allows to uninstall the speed camera warning, making the app 'legal' to use in Switzerland.

In Switzerland the driver will be fined for 200 € if one has a speed-camera-warning device, also 'only' an App. In addition, the device is confiscated. MagicEarth (for example) allows to uninstall the speed camera warning, making the app 'legal' to use in Switzerland.

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biodranik commented

2022-05-22 21:59:13 +00:00

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@habi to "uninstall"? How?

habi commented

2022-05-23 05:19:53 +00:00

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Like seen in the screenshots below.

Like seen in the screenshots below. ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1651235/169748571-a1401485-9cc3-4a08-911b-06285f4d7e6d.jpeg) ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1651235/169748591-54f215ac-9bbf-41d7-893f-6d975af4ae9e.jpeg)

AntonM030481 commented

2022-06-07 10:26:37 +00:00

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Interesting. So according to the law it's illegal just disable camera, since it's still on your device.
But it's legal to have have an ability to download data if you don't use it.

you can play safe and have no data,
or you can risk to have data and use it.

Interesting. So according to the law it's illegal just disable camera, since it's still on your device. But it's legal to have have an ability to download data if you don't use it. - you can play safe and have no data, - or you can risk to have data and use it.

AntonM030481 commented

2022-06-07 10:51:03 +00:00

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@biodranik it's strange, we have 2 lists:

// List of country names where mwm should be generated without speed cameras.
std::vector<std::string> kSpeedCamerasProhibitedCountries = {
    "Cyprus", "Macedonia", "Switzerland", "Turkey",
};

// List of country names where an end user should be warned about speed cameras.
std::vector<std::string> kSpeedCamerasPartlyProhibitedCountries = {
    "France", "Germany",
};

And I don't understand the second one.
Maybe "should NOT be warned", but mwm is generated with data.
According to the code it seems to be true.

@biodranik it's strange, we have 2 lists: ``` // List of country names where mwm should be generated without speed cameras. std::vector<std::string> kSpeedCamerasProhibitedCountries = { "Cyprus", "Macedonia", "Switzerland", "Turkey", }; // List of country names where an end user should be warned about speed cameras. std::vector<std::string> kSpeedCamerasPartlyProhibitedCountries = { "France", "Germany", }; ``` And I don't understand the second one. Maybe "should NOT be warned", but mwm is generated with data. According to the code it seems to be true.

biodranik commented

2022-06-12 23:11:19 +00:00

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There were some law differences, but I think in 2020 there was a change in Germany. Need to check the code.

It looks like a good idea to have cameras in data, but leave all responsibility on the user with manually enabling or disabling them.

There were some law differences, but I think in 2020 there was a change in Germany. Need to check the code. It looks like a good idea to have cameras in data, but leave all responsibility on the user with manually enabling or disabling them.

d4f5409d commented

2022-07-03 16:11:25 +00:00

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It could be also helpful if we could report them so other would see not only fixed cams, rather also mobile speed cameras. (Like in Waze GPS)

bitboy85 commented

2022-07-13 06:57:29 +00:00

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There were some law differences, but I think in 2020 there was a change in Germany. Need to check the code.

It looks like a good idea to have cameras in data, but leave all responsibility on the user with manually enabling or disabling them.

Its also illegal in germany. But i agree to you, there should be one list of countrys where it is illegal, warn the users but leave the decision up to them. In those countrys the default setting for warning should be off so the user needs to explicitly turn it on.

> There were some law differences, but I think in 2020 there was a change in Germany. Need to check the code. > > It looks like a good idea to have cameras in data, but leave all responsibility on the user with manually enabling or disabling them. Its also illegal in germany. But i agree to you, there should be one list of countrys where it is illegal, warn the users but leave the decision up to them. In those countrys the default setting for warning should be off so the user needs to explicitly turn it on.

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