Support addr:conscriptionnumber and addr:streetnumber addresses in Czechia, Slovakia, Austria, and Hungary #579

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opened 2021-06-13 15:59:04 +00:00 by andrewshadura · 8 comments
andrewshadura commented 2021-06-13 15:59:04 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Houses and their entrances in some places, mostly Czechia and Slovakia, use a dual numbering system: a conscription number unique to the village/city/city borough, and a street number, if available, which is unique to the street only:
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The conscription numbers are usually assigned to buildings themselves while street numbers are often given to individual entrances, leading to multiple addresses sharing a conscription number:
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In this case, the entrance marked as 4 can be addressed as:

  • Trnavská 1355
  • Trnavská 4
  • Trnavská 1355/4

In smaller villages with only few streets, it’s also common to use the place name instead of the street even without addr:place; in that case Village 1355 would be an acceptable address (but not Village 4). However, it’d be okay if this relatively rare case were not covered.


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Houses and their entrances in some places, mostly Czechia and Slovakia, use a dual numbering system: a [conscription number](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:conscriptionnumber) unique to the village/city/city borough, and a street number, if available, which is unique to the street only: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/309253/121814221-2428f700-cc70-11eb-838c-8ce3e312eee9.png) ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/309253/121814226-2ee38c00-cc70-11eb-9315-e3ae9da6c751.png) The conscription numbers are usually assigned to buildings themselves while street numbers are often given to individual entrances, leading to multiple addresses sharing a conscription number: ![image](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/309253/121814317-a1ed0280-cc70-11eb-887e-89252843e796.png) In this case, the entrance marked as *4* can be addressed as: * Trnavská 1355 * Trnavská 4 * Trnavská 1355/4 In smaller villages with only few streets, it’s also common to use the place name instead of the street *even* without `addr:place`; in that case *Village 1355* would be an acceptable address (but not *Village 4*). However, it’d be okay if this relatively rare case were not covered. --------------------------------- <table> <tr> <td> <a href="https://nlnet.nl/"><img src="https://raw.githubusercontent.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/87f50b9fdb874ffc9b905d2738774d9b16d3c5a5/docs/sponsors/nlnet.svg" alt="The NLnet Foundation" width="200px"></a> </td> <td> This project has been funded through NGI0 Entrust Fund. <a href="https://nlnet.nl/entrust/">NGI0 Entrust Fund</a> is established by the <a href="https://nlnet.nl/">NLnet Foundation</a> with financial support from the European Commission's <a href="https://www.ngi.eu/">Next Generation Internet programme</a>, under the aegis of DG Communications Networks, Content and Technology under grant agreement No 101069594. </td> </tr> </table>
ghost commented 2021-10-20 06:12:45 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Vote up, needed feature, for now using gmaps wrapper to find coordinates

Vote up, needed feature, for now using gmaps wrapper to find coordinates
biodranik commented 2021-10-20 08:35:30 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

How to display these addresses on the map?

How to display these addresses on the map?
andrewshadura commented 2021-10-20 08:47:24 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

You don’t display them on the map, since addr:housenumber is already formatted in a way suitable for display.
You only need to display them in the slide-up panel when a user clicks on an object to see the details.

You don’t display them on the map, since `addr:housenumber` is already formatted in a way suitable for display. You only need to display them in the slide-up panel when a user clicks on an object to see the details.
her01n commented 2021-12-17 14:50:43 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I think this is the problem with the search. Consider this building.

addr:city = Brezno
addr:conscriptionnumber = 135
addr:country = SK
addr:housenumber = 135/4
addr:street = Školská
addr:streetnumber = 4

Searching for "Školská 4 Brezno" should find this building, but it finds only the street.
Search on openstreetmap.org web works this way, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=skolska%204%20brezno#map=19/48.80822/19.64254

I think this is the problem with the search. Consider this building. ``` addr:city = Brezno addr:conscriptionnumber = 135 addr:country = SK addr:housenumber = 135/4 addr:street = Školská addr:streetnumber = 4 ``` Searching for "Školská 4 Brezno" should find this building, but it finds only the street. Search on openstreetmap.org web works this way, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=skolska%204%20brezno#map=19/48.80822/19.64254
biodranik commented 2021-12-17 17:20:46 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

If streetnumber and conscriptionnumber are not parsed by maps generator, do you think that housenumber will be always present in such addresses?

If streetnumber and conscriptionnumber are not parsed by maps generator, do you think that housenumber will be always present in such addresses?
andrewshadura commented 2021-12-17 17:24:51 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

The house number tag is always present, but it can be the conscription number, the street number or both, slash-separated.

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If streetnumber and conscriptionnumber are not parsed by maps generator, do you think that housenumber will be always present in such addresses?


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mahdi1234 commented 2022-04-17 09:21:59 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

This is one of the pain points why I don't use Organic maps not being able search for address. Taking this example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/296449851

One has to type the whole address "provaznikova 1256" to get it, in reality normal people do not use/know those numbers at all

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even typing just "provaznikova 125" doesn't give any hint

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in Magic Earth one can either search for "provaznikova 44" (which most of people would do)

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or in advanced address search get hint of what addresses exist

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This is one of the pain points why I don't use Organic maps not being able search for address. Taking this example https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/296449851 One has to type the whole address "provaznikova 1256" to get it, in reality normal people do not use/know those numbers at all ![omaps_1](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1097047/163708409-bc2d111e-f34b-4c6f-9db2-42d32c160836.jpg) even typing just "provaznikova 125" doesn't give any hint ![omaps_2](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1097047/163708419-170f42bd-3031-461a-8d4a-1835f2c1da47.jpg) in Magic Earth one can either search for "provaznikova 44" (which most of people would do) ![me_1](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1097047/163708434-9dd00e07-219f-4af8-a1e2-3f61a8602fee.jpg) or in advanced address search get hint of what addresses exist ![me_2](https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/1097047/163708459-e55a8a78-1fd4-481e-9a3a-2a573fc26b86.jpg)
biodranik commented 2022-04-17 10:53:59 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

We know about this issue and fix it. The proper fix is not trivial though...

We know about this issue and fix it. The proper fix is not trivial though...
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