Wrong city in addresses #857

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opened 2021-07-14 08:17:57 +00:00 by rightsaidfred99 · 19 comments
rightsaidfred99 commented 2021-07-14 08:17:57 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Hi there,

I'm.not sure if this is a problem with OpenMaps data or not but the capital city of Australia, Canberra - all the addresses appear as Sydney.

So instead of "123 street, Suburb, Canberra ACT"
OrganicMaps displays "123 street, Suburb, Sydney"

This is a mistake and happens with all addresses, even the places to east suggestions.

Hi there, I'm.not sure if this is a problem with OpenMaps data or not but the capital city of Australia, Canberra - all the addresses appear as Sydney. So instead of "123 street, Suburb, Canberra ACT" OrganicMaps displays "123 street, Suburb, Sydney" This is a mistake and happens with all addresses, even the places to east suggestions.
biodranik commented 2021-07-14 09:28:59 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

@vng can you please take a look?

@vng can you please take a look?
amo-f77 commented 2021-07-16 05:39:24 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I wonder if it's because Canberra is part of the Sydney, Australia map.

When I search for 2 yamba place, Canberra. I get a suggestion of
Yamba Place, 2
Building
Canberra, Yamba Place, 2, Sydney, Australia

It has the right information, with Sydney, Australia tacked on the end.

I wonder if it's because Canberra is part of the Sydney, Australia map. When I search for 2 yamba place, Canberra. I get a suggestion of **`Yamba Place, 2`** `Building` `Canberra, Yamba Place, 2, Sydney, Australia` It has the right information, with Sydney, Australia tacked on the end.
rightsaidfred99 commented 2021-07-16 06:06:40 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I wonder if it's because Canberra is part of the Sydney, Australia map.

When I search for 2 yamba place, Canberra. I get a suggestion of
Yamba Place, 2
Building
Canberra, Yamba Place, 2, Sydney, Australia

It has the right information, with Sydney, Australia tacked on the end.

That's correct, I too think it's because it gets downloaded within the "Sydney" map.

It should read:
Yambah Place, Narrabundah ACT, Australia (
as per google maps

It would be the same thing as saying Washington DC doesn't exist and should be included with New York map.

1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, New York, NY

> > > I wonder if it's because Canberra is part of the Sydney, Australia map. > > When I search for 2 yamba place, Canberra. I get a suggestion of > **`Yamba Place, 2`** > `Building` > `Canberra, Yamba Place, 2, Sydney, Australia` > > It has the right information, with Sydney, Australia tacked on the end. That's correct, I too think it's because it gets downloaded within the "Sydney" map. It should read: Yambah Place, Narrabundah ACT, Australia ( [as per google maps](https://www.google.com.au/maps/place/Yamba+Pl,+Narrabundah+ACT+2604/@-35.3293333,149.1476882,17z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x6b164cf5f84b35f3:0xdcd227fec025f459!8m2!3d-35.3293333!4d149.1498769?hl=en) It would be the same thing as saying Washington DC doesn't exist and should be included with New York map. 1600 Pennsylvania Ave NW, New York, NY
biodranik commented 2021-10-22 06:52:46 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Another example: Guadalajara (Jalisco province in Mexico) shows that it is in Nayarit province in search results.

Another example: Guadalajara (Jalisco province in Mexico) shows that it is in Nayarit province in search results.
biodranik commented 2021-11-01 15:42:46 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

"Hawthorn" in Melbourne map area shows many search results with the same suburb name: "Melbourne, Australia"

"Hawthorn" in Melbourne map area shows many search results with the same suburb name: "Melbourne, Australia"
benji88i commented 2021-12-06 18:58:36 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

"Hawthorn" in Melbourne map area shows many search results with the same suburb name: "Melbourne, Australia"

Yes this is all across Melbourne for many many suburbs, in fact it just says Melbourne everywhere. Where can we download the source code?

> "Hawthorn" in Melbourne map area shows many search results with the same suburb name: "Melbourne, Australia" Yes this is all across Melbourne for many many suburbs, in fact it just says Melbourne everywhere. Where can we download the source code?
biodranik commented 2021-12-06 21:01:03 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Where can we download the source code?

?

> Where can we download the source code? ?
benji88i commented 2021-12-07 03:37:43 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Sorry, let me clarify. I meant source code for the addresses of each locality. Couldn't we take this from gnome maps or similar variant to correct this and adapt to suit for organic maps,

Sorry, let me clarify. I meant source code for the addresses of each locality. Couldn't we take this from gnome maps or similar variant to correct this and adapt to suit for organic maps,
biodranik commented 2021-12-07 10:08:18 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

No, this problem should be solved by properly checking administrative borders that are present in OSM.

No, this problem should be solved by properly checking administrative borders that are present in OSM.
benji88i commented 2021-12-07 15:17:02 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

oh right, so how can I help? I know the city and the country well. How do I find the administrative borders?

oh right, so how can I help? I know the city and the country well. How do I find the administrative borders?
biodranik commented 2021-12-07 23:40:38 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Please check this https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative
And check if osm.org already has proper boundaries in your area.

Please check this https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative And check if osm.org already has proper boundaries in your area.
biodranik commented 2022-01-04 21:37:59 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

boundary=administrative admin_level=10 place=suburb are not supported yet in OM search results/addresses:

Searching for Birrabang Avenue in Organic Maps (NSW Australia) returns "Birrabang Avenue, Doyalson", but it should return "Birrabang Avenue, Summerland Point".

boundary=administrative admin_level=10 place=suburb are not supported yet in OM search results/addresses: Searching for Birrabang Avenue in Organic Maps (NSW Australia) returns "Birrabang Avenue, Doyalson", but it should return "Birrabang Avenue, Summerland Point".
rightsaidfred99 commented 2022-01-09 01:24:54 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

boundary=administrative admin_level=10 place=suburb are not supported yet in OM search results/addresses:

Searching for Birrabang Avenue in Organic Maps (NSW Australia) returns "Birrabang Avenue, Doyalson", but it should return "Birrabang Avenue, Summerland Point".

I don't understand, does this mean its not possible to fix on OrganicMaps' end? The OSM data needs to implement suburbs?

> boundary=administrative admin_level=10 place=suburb are not supported yet in OM search results/addresses: > > Searching for Birrabang Avenue in Organic Maps (NSW Australia) returns "Birrabang Avenue, Doyalson", but it should return "Birrabang Avenue, Summerland Point". I don't understand, does this mean its not possible to fix on OrganicMaps' end? The OSM data needs to implement suburbs?
biodranik commented 2022-01-09 01:27:33 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

It is possible to fix in OM but requires a non-trivial effort with borders. We'll see what we can do.

It is possible to fix in OM but requires a non-trivial effort with borders. We'll see what we can do.
biodranik commented 2022-04-29 11:11:51 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I looked up a street, and it suggested it as being in 'Heerlen' the city next to it.

Street in question: Zeverij, Landgraaf, Limburg, Nederland
Noted by Organic Maps search: Zeverij, Landgraaf, Limburg, Nederland

I checked with OpenStreetMap (website), and that shows correctly 'Landgraaf'.

I looked up a street, and it suggested it as being in 'Heerlen' the city next to it. Street in question: Zeverij, Landgraaf, Limburg, Nederland Noted by Organic Maps search: Zeverij, Landgraaf, Limburg, Nederland I checked with OpenStreetMap (website), and that shows correctly 'Landgraaf'.
biodranik commented 2022-11-20 23:31:36 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I encountered a bug while searching this particular street in Orléans ((Loiret, France) : rue Gustave Flaubert .
This street is located in Orléans la Source, with Zip code 45100.
In Osmand, the street is correctly linked with Orléans la Source but if you search it with Organic Maps, the street suggested is linked to Olivet ! If you select it, it is as a matter of fact the appropriate street but it would be problematic for someone searching it without actually knowing the place.
Curiously if you select the street on the map, it returns the right zip code.
Should you not know this city, Olivet is a city just beside Orléans and Orléans la Source is a part of Orléans with a specific zip code. Makes me think that some boundary between the cities is incorrect?

> I encountered a bug while searching this particular street in Orléans ((Loiret, France) : rue Gustave Flaubert . This street is located in Orléans la Source, with Zip code 45100. In Osmand, the street is correctly linked with Orléans la Source but if you search it with Organic Maps, the street suggested is linked to Olivet ! If you select it, it is as a matter of fact the appropriate street but it would be problematic for someone searching it without actually knowing the place. Curiously if you select the street on the map, it returns the right zip code. Should you not know this city, Olivet is a city just beside Orléans and Orléans la Source is a part of Orléans with a specific zip code. Makes me think that some boundary between the cities is incorrect?
LuisAPI commented 2022-12-11 15:13:38 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

Adding some 2c in here: https://fosstodon.org/@lastcelebration/109495492353526679

tl;dr: "it just says Melbourne everywhere" is also true of Greater Manila suburbs and exurbs

Adding some 2c in here: https://fosstodon.org/@lastcelebration/109495492353526679 tl;dr: "it just says Melbourne everywhere" is also true of Greater Manila suburbs and exurbs
Talldad commented 2022-12-28 23:33:31 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

I have experienced this also and have investigated Australia's Tagging Guidelines.

I recommend that OSM or OM (not sure where it needs to happen) be modified to respect the highest level of tagging in search results. In Australia, that would be 9 for locality/suburb.

I have experienced this also and have investigated Australia's Tagging Guidelines. I recommend that OSM or OM (not sure where it needs to happen) be modified to respect the highest level of tagging in search results. In Australia, that would be 9 for locality/suburb.
rightsaidfred99 commented 2023-01-07 21:37:51 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

With the new dataset used in December 16, the bug for Australia sadly still exists

With the new dataset used in December 16, the bug for Australia sadly still exists
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