for cyclists steps with ramps are much better than steps without ramps #9709

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opened 2024-11-21 06:27:05 +00:00 by matkoniecz · 0 comments

matkoniecz commented

2024-11-21 06:27:05 +00:00

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As indicated in organicmaps/organicmaps#9692 all steps are penalised equally in bicycle routing.

But steps with bicycle ramps are much less obnoxious in my experience.

See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ramp

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:%22Wheeling_ramp%22,Skeldergate_Bridge-geograph.org.uk-_2424314.jpg ramp:bicycle=yes - 16k uses

ramp:stroller=yes - nearly as good, 26k uses, extra 23k where there is no bicycle ramp

ramp:wheelchair - often much worse, but still better than steps

in initial implementation ramp:bicycle=yes ramp:stroller=yes can be both treated as reducing steps malus (compared to footway) by say 70%. So if steps are treated as 1km/h and footway as 18 km/h then steps with ramp can be say 10km/h.

Ramp status is surveyed by StreetComplete and supported in other editors, so coverage can be expected to get better.

⚠ Have you searched for similar, already existing issues?

yes https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues?q=is%3Aissue+bicycle+ramp+

Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.

Bicycle routing in OM is quite bad.

Describe the ideal solution

Steps with ramps are receiving smaller penalty than steps without them

Describe alternatives you have considered

Use brouter at home

Additional context

As indicated in https://git.omaps.dev/organicmaps/organicmaps/pulls/9692#pullrequestreview-2447572713 all steps are penalised equally in bicycle routing. But steps with bicycle ramps are much less obnoxious in my experience. See https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ramp https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:%22Wheeling_ramp%22,_Skeldergate_Bridge_-_geograph.org.uk_-_2424314.jpg `ramp:bicycle=yes` - 16k uses `ramp:stroller=yes` - nearly as good, 26k uses, extra 23k where there is no bicycle ramp `ramp:wheelchair` - often much worse, but still better than steps in initial implementation `ramp:bicycle=yes` `ramp:stroller=yes` can be both treated as reducing steps malus (compared to footway) by say 70%. So if steps are treated as 1km/h and footway as 18 km/h then steps with ramp can be say 10km/h. Ramp status is surveyed by StreetComplete and supported in other editors, so coverage can be expected to get better. ------------ ⚠ Have you searched for similar, already existing issues? yes https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues?q=is%3Aissue+bicycle+ramp+ **Is your feature request related to a problem? Please describe.** Bicycle routing in OM is quite bad. **Describe the ideal solution** Steps with ramps are receiving smaller penalty than steps without them **Describe alternatives you have considered** Use brouter at home **Additional context**

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