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Timmy-Tesseract commented

2023-01-09 00:47:43 +00:00

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biodranik (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2023-01-09 00:56:42 +00:00

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biodranik (Migrated from github.com) commented

2023-01-09 00:56:36 +00:00

It would be great to reflect the category/difficulty level of the track in the translation.

Timmy-Tesseract (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2023-01-09 04:06:22 +00:00

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Timmy-Tesseract (Migrated from github.com) commented

2023-01-09 04:06:22 +00:00

Good point. I was a bit hesitant to add this because sac_scale terminology can't be translated literally when considering global usage.

But I now tried to add some indication of difficulty that should be universally understandable.

Good point. I was a bit hesitant to add this because sac_scale terminology can't be translated literally when considering global usage. But I now tried to add some indication of difficulty that should be universally understandable.

biodranik (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2023-01-09 16:21:19 +00:00

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biodranik (Migrated from github.com) commented

2023-01-09 16:21:19 +00:00

Why OSM terminology can't be used here directly?

pastk reviewed 2023-01-17 22:09:34 +00:00

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pastk commented

2023-01-17 22:09:34 +00:00

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There was a discussion about it before in organicmaps/organicmaps#2771 (comment)
(sorry, the most of it in russian, but the final correspondence between the tag and the en translation is there anyway)

There was a discussion about it before in https://git.omaps.dev/organicmaps/organicmaps/pulls/2771#issuecomment-1164348210 (sorry, the most of it in russian, but the final correspondence between the tag and the en translation is there anyway)

pastk commented

2023-01-18 14:46:36 +00:00

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For clarity I brought together your translation suggestions and mine based on from organicmaps/organicmaps#2771 (comment)

I like the idea of adding numeric "x out of y" difficulty level as it shows position in the whole range clearly (as words are quite subjective). However I don't like how its formulated atm ("(difficulty 1/6)") - looks long. Better ideas?
Of course it would be better to have difficulty as a separate parameter in the place page, but there are no means to do it atm so its out of scope.

hiking
Hiking Trail
Hiking Trail (difficulty 1/6)
Туристическая тропа (сложность 1/6)

mountain_hiking
Hiking Trail
Mountain Trail (difficulty 2/6)
Горная тропа (сложность 2/6)

demanding_mountain_hiking
Demanding Hiking Trail
// Often higher in the mountains there is no actual "trail" in a sense that there is no visible path on the ground as its too rocky (and if its marked then usually by cairns/poles), hence I prefer to use "Route" here (inspired by New Zealand's trails classification).
Mountain Route (difficulty 3/6)
Горный маршрут (сложность 3/6)

alpine_hiking
Demanding Hiking Trail
Alpine Route (difficulty 4/6)
Высокогорный маршрут (сложность 5/6)

demanding_alpine_hiking
Technical Mountain Trail
Technical Alpine Route (difficulty 5/6)
Альпинистский маршрут (сложность 5/6)

difficult_alpine_hiking
Technical Mountain Trail
Technical Alpine Route (difficulty 6/6)
Сложный альпинистский маршрут (сложность 6/6)

Edit: updated RU translations after consulting with some mountaineering friends.

For clarity I brought together your translation suggestions and mine based on from https://git.omaps.dev/organicmaps/organicmaps/pulls/2771#issuecomment-1164348210 I like the idea of adding numeric "x out of y" difficulty level as it shows position in the whole range clearly (as words are quite subjective). However I don't like how its formulated atm ("(difficulty 1/6)") - looks long. Better ideas? Of course it would be better to have difficulty as a separate parameter in the place page, but there are no means to do it atm so its out of scope. `hiking` Hiking Trail Hiking Trail (difficulty 1/6) Туристическая тропа (сложность 1/6) `mountain_hiking` Hiking Trail Mountain Trail (difficulty 2/6) Горная тропа (сложность 2/6) `demanding_mountain_hiking` Demanding Hiking Trail // Often higher in the mountains there is no actual "trail" in a sense that there is no visible path on the ground as its too rocky (and if its marked then usually by cairns/poles), hence I prefer to use "Route" here (inspired by New Zealand's trails classification). Mountain Route (difficulty 3/6) Горный маршрут (сложность 3/6) `alpine_hiking` Demanding Hiking Trail Alpine Route (difficulty 4/6) Высокогорный маршрут (сложность 5/6) `demanding_alpine_hiking` Technical Mountain Trail Technical Alpine Route (difficulty 5/6) Альпинистский маршрут (сложность 5/6) `difficult_alpine_hiking` Technical Mountain Trail Technical Alpine Route (difficulty 6/6) Сложный альпинистский маршрут (сложность 6/6) Edit: updated RU translations after consulting with some mountaineering friends.

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biodranik commented

2023-01-20 21:32:05 +00:00

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How the longest translation will look on the Place Page? If it's too ugly, we can just draw numbers like 3/5, or try some Unicode magic ■■□□□, it will already be better than nothing. Another idea is to draw the difficulty as if it was the path's name, along the path.

An appropriate solution would draw more info in the Place Page, and also will draw "risky" tracks differently on the map (another color? or maybe the same style/color).

How the longest translation will look on the Place Page? If it's too ugly, we can just draw numbers like `3/5`, or try some Unicode magic `■■□□□`, it will already be better than nothing. Another idea is to draw the difficulty as if it was the path's name, along the path. An appropriate solution would draw more info in the Place Page, and also will draw "risky" tracks differently on the map (another color? or maybe the same style/color).

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