Add camp_pitch #8757

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willcohen wants to merge 2 commits from willcohen/camp_pitch into master
willcohen commented 2024-07-24 16:06:12 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)

While I have been unable to successfully regenerate the map file to test locally, I do believe I followed the initial steps at https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/docs/STYLES.md#how-to-add-a-new-map-feature--poi-type.

Pending testing confirmation, would address #1660.

While I have been unable to successfully regenerate the map file to test locally, I do believe I followed the initial steps at https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/docs/STYLES.md#how-to-add-a-new-map-feature--poi-type. Pending testing confirmation, would address #1660.
biodranik (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-08-01 17:26:58 +00:00
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What is the value of adding and displaying individual pitches? Are there many camp sites with each pitch inside properly mapped?

What is the value of adding and displaying individual pitches? Are there many camp sites with each pitch inside properly mapped?
@ -991,6 +991,9 @@
<type id="attraction-animal">
<include field="name" />
</type>
<type id="tourism-camp_pitch" group="accomodation">
biodranik (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-01 17:24:57 +00:00

What's the value of adding individual pitches as POIs?

What's the value of adding individual pitches as POIs?
@ -992,2 +992,4 @@
<include field="name" />
</type>
<type id="tourism-camp_pitch" group="accomodation">
<include group="poi_internet" />
biodranik (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-01 17:11:13 +00:00

Are there camp pitches with the internet? Should this tag belong to the camp site?

Are there camp pitches with the internet? Should this tag belong to the camp site?
@ -584,3 +584,3 @@
amenity|telephone;471;
deprecated|deprecated;472;x
tourism|camp_pitch;472;
deprecated|deprecated;473;x
biodranik (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-01 17:11:46 +00:00

@vng is it the right ID for the pitch?

@vng is it the right ID for the pitch?
@ -29857,1 +29857,4 @@
[type.tourism.camp_pitch]
en = Camp Pitch
en-GB = Camp Pitch
biodranik (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-01 17:12:17 +00:00

No need to type equal translations for sublanguages.

Some translations are missing, how did you translate it? Not with tools/python/translate.py, right?

    en = Camp site
    af = Kampplek
    ar = موقع المخيم
    az = Düşərgə yeri
    be = Пляцоўка для лагера
    bg = Къмпинг
    ca = Càmping
    cs = Tábořiště
    da = Lejrplads
    de = Zeltplatz
    el = Χώρος κατασκήνωσης
    es = Camping
    et = Laagriplats
    eu = Kanpalekua
    fa = سایت کمپ
    fi = Leirintäalue
    fr = Camping
    he = אתר מחנה
    hi = शिविर स्थल
    hu = Táborhely
    id = Lokasi perkemahan
    it = Campeggio
    ja = キャンプサイト
    ko = 캠프 사이트
    lt = Stovyklavietė
    mr = कॅम्प साइट
    nb = Leirplass
    nl = Camping
    pl = Kemping
    pt = Acampamento
    pt-BR = Local do acampamento
    ro = Locul de campare
    ru = Площадка для лагеря
    sk = Táborisko
    sv = Campingplats
    sw = Tovuti ya kambi
    th = เว็บไซต์ค่าย
    tr = Kamp alanı
    uk = Майданчик для таборування
    vi = Khu cắm trại
    zh-Hans = 营地
    zh-Hant = 營地
No need to type equal translations for sublanguages. Some translations are missing, how did you translate it? Not with tools/python/translate.py, right? ``` en = Camp site af = Kampplek ar = موقع المخيم az = Düşərgə yeri be = Пляцоўка для лагера bg = Къмпинг ca = Càmping cs = Tábořiště da = Lejrplads de = Zeltplatz el = Χώρος κατασκήνωσης es = Camping et = Laagriplats eu = Kanpalekua fa = سایت کمپ fi = Leirintäalue fr = Camping he = אתר מחנה hi = शिविर स्थल hu = Táborhely id = Lokasi perkemahan it = Campeggio ja = キャンプサイト ko = 캠프 사이트 lt = Stovyklavietė mr = कॅम्प साइट nb = Leirplass nl = Camping pl = Kemping pt = Acampamento pt-BR = Local do acampamento ro = Locul de campare ru = Площадка для лагеря sk = Táborisko sv = Campingplats sw = Tovuti ya kambi th = เว็บไซต์ค่าย tr = Kamp alanı uk = Майданчик для таборування vi = Khu cắm trại zh-Hans = 营地 zh-Hant = 營地 ```
vng (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-08-02 14:43:22 +00:00
@ -584,3 +584,3 @@
amenity|telephone;471;
deprecated|deprecated;472;x
tourism|camp_pitch;472;
deprecated|deprecated;473;x
vng (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-02 14:43:22 +00:00

No problem here.

No problem here.
orblivion (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-08-22 03:46:14 +00:00
@ -992,2 +992,4 @@
<include field="name" />
</type>
<type id="tourism-camp_pitch" group="accomodation">
<include group="poi_internet" />
orblivion (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-22 03:46:14 +00:00

I would also think it belongs to the camp site as a whole, unless maybe only part of the facility has reach to the wifi?

In any case, FWIW, internet_access is in the wiki under "Tags used in combination":

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_pitch

I would also think it belongs to the camp site as a whole, unless maybe only part of the facility has reach to the wifi? In any case, FWIW, `internet_access` is in the wiki under "Tags used in combination": https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_pitch
orblivion (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-08-22 03:55:57 +00:00
@ -29856,2 +29856,4 @@
ref = type.tourism.attraction
[type.tourism.camp_pitch]
en = Camp Pitch
orblivion (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-08-22 03:55:57 +00:00

It looks like en refers to American English? (I'm not an Organic Maps dev) This checks out below: "Campground" in en-US translates to "Campsite" in en-GB.

Well, with that in mind, what British folks refer to as a "Camp Pitch", us Americans refer to, confusingly enough, as a "Campsite". ("Camp Pitch" is not a phrase I'd heard of before looking this up the other day, and it made it hard to find this feature in the OSM taxonomy). This is currently mentioned in the opening paragraph here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site

It looks like `en` refers to American English? (I'm not an Organic Maps dev) This checks out below: "Campground" in `en-US` translates to "Campsite" in `en-GB`. Well, with that in mind, what British folks refer to as a "Camp Pitch", us Americans refer to, confusingly enough, as a "Campsite". ("Camp Pitch" is not a phrase I'd heard of before looking this up the other day, and it made it hard to find this feature in the OSM taxonomy). This is currently mentioned in the opening paragraph here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:tourism%3Dcamp_site
brdbkr (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-09-03 04:34:28 +00:00
@ -29856,2 +29856,4 @@
ref = type.tourism.attraction
[type.tourism.camp_pitch]
en = Camp Pitch
brdbkr (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-09-03 04:34:28 +00:00

Yes, "camp pitch" is a term I have never, ever heard in the US.

Yes, "camp pitch" is a term I have never, ever heard in the US.
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-09-30 23:41:41 +00:00
@ -992,2 +992,4 @@
<include field="name" />
</type>
<type id="tourism-camp_pitch" group="accomodation">
<include group="poi_internet" />
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-09-30 23:41:41 +00:00

Yes, this is an error due to my not totally understanding what everything is and just trying to follow contextual convention -- I will remove poi_internet with my next force push (pending resolution of other questions).

Yes, this is an error due to my not totally understanding what everything is and just trying to follow contextual convention -- I will remove poi_internet with my next force push (pending resolution of other questions).
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-09-30 23:42:02 +00:00
@ -584,3 +584,3 @@
amenity|telephone;471;
deprecated|deprecated;472;x
tourism|camp_pitch;472;
deprecated|deprecated;473;x
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-09-30 23:42:02 +00:00

Thanks -- I was just trying to follow instructions suggesting to reuse deprecated ids when possible.

Thanks -- I was just trying to follow instructions suggesting to reuse deprecated ids when possible.
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-09-30 23:43:54 +00:00
@ -29857,1 +29857,4 @@
[type.tourism.camp_pitch]
en = Camp Pitch
en-GB = Camp Pitch
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-09-30 23:43:54 +00:00

I definitely can't claim this much language knowledge. This was just done manually via Google Translate, which I now realize is basically what https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/docs/TRANSLATIONS.md has automated tools for. Will revise with next force push.

I definitely can't claim this much language knowledge. This was just done manually via Google Translate, which I now realize is basically what https://github.com/organicmaps/organicmaps/blob/master/docs/TRANSLATIONS.md has automated tools for. Will revise with next force push.
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-09-30 23:44:36 +00:00
@ -991,6 +991,9 @@
<type id="attraction-animal">
<include field="name" />
</type>
<type id="tourism-camp_pitch" group="accomodation">
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-09-30 23:44:36 +00:00

As discussed below -- my goal was just to have these clickable / searchable for the purpose of navigating. I'm able to be convinced to have them simply displayable instead, pending resolution of zoom level questions and not overcrowding.

As discussed below -- my goal was just to have these clickable / searchable for the purpose of navigating. I'm able to be convinced to have them simply displayable instead, pending resolution of zoom level questions and not overcrowding.
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) reviewed 2024-09-30 23:46:11 +00:00
@ -29856,2 +29856,4 @@
ref = type.tourism.attraction
[type.tourism.camp_pitch]
en = Camp Pitch
willcohen (Migrated from github.com) commented 2024-09-30 23:46:11 +00:00

I also hadn't heard that phrase but was trying to go with the flow of how OSM classifies things. I'm an American and 100% would call it a camp site, but I know that that was getting repetitive and I couldn't come up with something unambiguous for the two. I'll keep things Americanish for the Americans, I guess! I'll adjust with the next force push.

I also hadn't heard that phrase but was trying to go with the flow of how OSM classifies things. I'm an American and 100% would call it a camp site, but I know that that was getting repetitive and I couldn't come up with something unambiguous for the two. I'll keep things Americanish for the Americans, I guess! I'll adjust with the next force push.
patepelo reviewed 2025-03-03 21:30:02 +00:00
@ -1504,6 +1504,7 @@ leisure-swimming_pool-private # icon z17- (also has captio
# === -6100
# highway-rest_area # caption(optional) z15- (also has icon z14-)
# tourism-camp_pitch # caption(optional) z13-

This seems to be too early even for outdoors. @pastk WDYT?

This seems to be too early even for outdoors. @pastk WDYT?
pastk reviewed 2025-03-13 10:22:37 +00:00
@ -1504,6 +1504,7 @@ leisure-swimming_pool-private # icon z17- (also has captio
# === -6100
# highway-rest_area # caption(optional) z15- (also has icon z14-)
# tourism-camp_pitch # caption(optional) z13-

yeap looks too early
in outdoors tourism-camp_site is z13-
so tourism-camp_pitch could be made z15-

yeap looks too early in outdoors `tourism-camp_site` is z13- so `tourism-camp_pitch` could be made z15-
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