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Physiotherapists are not being rendered, nor searchable by name #1050

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opened 2021-08-09 16:59:20 +00:00 by Outlet2048 · 29 comments
Outlet2048 commented 2021-08-09 16:59:20 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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(healthcare:physiotherapist)

(healthcare:physiotherapist)
biodranik commented 2021-08-09 17:44:01 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Thanks! We didn't add any of healthcare tags yet, because of the focus on travelers. Any ideas about where to find good icons for it and which other healthcare tags should be rendered?

Thanks! We didn't add any of healthcare tags yet, because of the focus on travelers. Any ideas about where to find good icons for it and which other healthcare tags should be rendered?
Outlet2048 commented 2021-08-09 19:29:56 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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So far Organic Maps does render the amenity:doctor tag and even displays an icon for it.
But theres also healthcare:doctor and that should probably rendered as well.
I dont know where you got that icon from but there might be more like it / just re-using the doctor icon seems fine as well

The following are the healthcare tags I'd render, taken from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare

healthcare=dentist
healthcare=doctor
healthcare=hospital
healthcare=blood_donation
healthcare=clinic
healthcare=physiotherapist
healthcare=psychotherapist
healthcare=sample_collection
healthcare=speech_therapist
healthcare=vaccination_centre

Everything else is less relevant (to me) and could be rendered with a generic icon, if even

let me know what you think :)

So far Organic Maps does render the amenity:doctor tag and even displays an icon for it. But theres also healthcare:doctor and that should probably rendered as well. I dont know where you got that icon from but there might be more like it / just re-using the doctor icon seems fine as well The following are the healthcare tags I'd render, taken from https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare healthcare=dentist healthcare=doctor healthcare=hospital healthcare=blood_donation healthcare=clinic healthcare=physiotherapist healthcare=psychotherapist healthcare=sample_collection healthcare=speech_therapist healthcare=vaccination_centre Everything else is less relevant (to me) and could be rendered with a generic icon, if even let me know what you think :)
biodranik commented 2021-08-09 20:13:17 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Thanks! Can you please share, what is your main use-case/interest in having these features on the map?

Thanks! Can you please share, what is your main use-case/interest in having these features on the map?
Outlet2048 commented 2021-08-09 20:19:57 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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  1. Doctors in the amenity category are rendered, but doctors in the healthcare category are not being rendered. As far as i know they are both the same but different tags.
  2. Not seeing icons of something that you'd expect to be on the map can lead to confusion. Especially prominent features
  3. It improves the UX when you're able to find more POIs in the search
  4. And lastly, navigating to a POI requires you being to find it on the map / in the search results

And besides all of that, not limiting Organic Maps purely to a traveler map would be something that im in favor of
A swiss army knife of maps sounds much nicer than having multiple maps apps for whatever it is that I want in that moment

1. Doctors in the amenity category are rendered, but doctors in the healthcare category are not being rendered. As far as i know they are both the same but different tags. 2. Not seeing icons of something that you'd expect to be on the map can lead to confusion. Especially prominent features 3. It improves the UX when you're able to find more POIs in the search 4. And lastly, navigating to a POI requires you being to find it on the map / in the search results And besides all of that, not limiting Organic Maps purely to a traveler map would be something that im in favor of A swiss army knife of maps sounds much nicer than having multiple maps apps for whatever it is that I want in that moment
Raphael0 commented 2021-08-09 21:18:30 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Would it make sense to make these tags searchable but not rendering them on the map?

I am thinking of larger cities where the map could be cluttered by too many POIs. Such specialists are rarely searched by randomly panning a map and are less important as waypoints since they are not as visible (in Europe you will often have a small sign next to a normal looking door, as opposed to restaurants or stores which are very visible and can be used to communicate a certain location)

Would it make sense to make these tags searchable but not rendering them on the map? I am thinking of larger cities where the map could be cluttered by too many POIs. Such specialists are rarely searched by randomly panning a map and are less important as waypoints since they are not as visible (in Europe you will often have a small sign next to a normal looking door, as opposed to restaurants or stores which are very visible and can be used to communicate a certain location)
Outlet2048 commented 2021-08-09 22:10:23 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Would it make sense to make these tags searchable but not rendering them on the map?

Would be looking weird if you're able to find something while searching, then click on it and then it just zooms to an area without icon.

And it wouldnt clutter the map if you just hide some less relevant POIs until you zoom in further. When zooming in, I'd like to see all POIs, otherwise i wouldnt zoom in that far.
Also makes exploring the area around you a lot more pleasant

> Would it make sense to make these tags searchable but not rendering them on the map? Would be looking weird if you're able to find something while searching, then click on it and then it just zooms to an area without icon. And it wouldnt clutter the map if you just hide some less relevant POIs until you zoom in further. When zooming in, I'd like to see all POIs, otherwise i wouldnt zoom in that far. Also makes exploring the area around you a lot more pleasant
Raphael0 commented 2021-08-10 21:06:06 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Haha yeah, that would be weird.

But for the cluttering, in some places in Paris there are 8+ different doctors at each house number. It would be important that some POIs (the ones which are easy recognisable from the street and are more often searched by panning the map) are prioritised over others as it might be impossible to render all of them

Haha yeah, that would be weird. But for the cluttering, in some places in Paris there are 8+ different doctors at each house number. It would be important that some POIs (the ones which are easy recognisable from the street and are more often searched by panning the map) are prioritised over others as it might be impossible to render all of them
ccptr commented 2021-08-11 14:51:19 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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What about not rendering the healthcare POIs unless searched for? But yes, at least prioritize others.

What about not rendering the healthcare POIs unless searched for? But yes, at least prioritize others.
Outlet2048 commented 2021-08-11 16:21:49 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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But for the cluttering, in some places in Paris there are 8+ different doctors at each house number. It would be important that some POIs (the ones which are easy recognisable from the street and are more often searched by panning the map) are prioritised over others as it might be impossible to render all of them

I believe organic maps is already doing that as of right now. If there are too many POIs in a given area, then only one will be displayed until the user zooms in. This also applies to completely different POIs.
So I guess there's already a solution to the issue in the app. It's just a matter of what POI should be ranked higher if all POIs in the area share the same tag.

> But for the cluttering, in some places in Paris there are 8+ different doctors at each house number. It would be important that some POIs (the ones which are easy recognisable from the street and are more often searched by panning the map) are prioritised over others as it might be impossible to render all of them I believe organic maps is already doing that as of right now. If there are too many POIs in a given area, then only one will be displayed until the user zooms in. This also applies to completely different POIs. So I guess there's already a solution to the issue in the app. It's just a matter of what POI should be ranked higher if all POIs in the area share the same tag.
Outlet2048 commented 2021-08-11 16:22:53 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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What about not rendering the healthcare POIs unless searched for? But yes, at least prioritize others.

See my answer to that question in the reply above
(#1050 (comment))

> What about not rendering the healthcare POIs unless searched for? But yes, at least prioritize others. See my answer to that question in the reply above (https://git.omaps.dev/organicmaps/organicmaps/issues/1050#issuecomment-895584807)
pastk commented 2022-02-05 15:28:22 +00:00
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mentioned in issue #1917

mentioned in issue #1917
TheAdventurer64 commented 2022-08-31 01:02:44 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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+1 on this. As someone who uses these types of facilities, I would much appreciate this being added. For now, I think just a simple healthcare icon would be great. Maybe in the future, better icons can be added.

+1 on this. As someone who uses these types of facilities, I would much appreciate this being added. For now, I think just a simple healthcare icon would be great. Maybe in the future, better icons can be added.
MrMime commented 2022-11-11 11:00:37 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Physiotherapist will be added with #3844.

Regarding the other healthcare tags:
healthcare=dentist, healthcare=doctor, healthcare=hospital and healthcare=clinic should only be used in combination with the tag amenity=<value>, thus they will be rendered already by the amenity type.

Regarding the rest:
I copied the table of the healthcare tags and removed every value which has a count below 1000. (source)

IMHO alternative and psychotherapist are the more interesting ones to be added.
I will think of an icon that could be used, in general I would not reuse the doctors icon, as they are a different kind of medical institution.

For blood_donation, optomist, podiatrist and speach_therapist I have simple icons in mind, which feature a drop, eye, foot and lips in a red circle, similar to the doctors icon. I will create a mockup for them, but it still needs to be decided whether the tags will even be added.

Key Value Description CountCount
healthcare alternative A facility where alternative or complementary medicine is practiced: e.g. acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathy, etc.
9 640
2 899
9
healthcare blood_donation Facility where you can donate blood, plasma and/or platelets, and possibly have stem cell samples taken
1 019
484
18
healthcare counselling A facility where health counselling is provided, e.g. dietitian, nutrition, addiction.
1 465
366
5
healthcare nurse A facility where a trained health professional (nurse) provides healthcare, who is not a physician
1 814
77
0
healthcare optometrist An optometrist's office
2 804
804
3
healthcare podiatrist A podiatrist's office
2 454
281
0
healthcare psychotherapist An office of a psychotherapist or clinical psychologist.
4 612
477
12
healthcare rehabilitation Medical rehabilitation facility, usually inpatient or residential
1 315
1 636
135
healthcare sample_collection Site or dedicated healthcare facility where samples of blood/urine/etc are obtained or collected for purpose of analyzing them for healthcare diagnostics
1 305
121
0
healthcare speech_therapist A speech therapist, a health specialist who deals with speech, voice, swallowing or hearing impairment.
1 573
133
0
Physiotherapist will be added with #3844. Regarding the other healthcare tags: `healthcare=dentist`, `healthcare=doctor`, `healthcare=hospital` and `healthcare=clinic` should only be used in combination with the tag `amenity=<value>`, thus they will be rendered already by the amenity type. Regarding the rest: I copied the table of the `healthcare` tags and removed every value which has a count below 1000. ([source](https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Healthcare)) IMHO `alternative` and `psychotherapist` are the more interesting ones to be added. I will think of an icon that could be used, in general I would not reuse the doctors icon, as they are a different kind of medical institution. For `blood_donation`, `optomist`, `podiatrist` and `speach_therapist` I have simple icons in mind, which feature a drop, eye, foot and lips in a red circle, similar to the doctors icon. I will create a mockup for them, but it still needs to be decided whether the tags will even be added. <table class="wikitable taginfo-taglist"> <thead> <tr> <th>Key</th> <th>Value</th> <th>Description</th> <th>CountCount</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dalternative">alternative</a></td> <td>A facility where alternative or complementary medicine is practiced: e.g. acupuncture, chiropractic, naturopathy, etc.</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">9 640 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">2 899 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">9 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dblood_donation">blood_donation</a></td> <td>Facility where you can donate blood, plasma and/or platelets, and possibly have stem cell samples taken</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 019 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">484 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">18 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dcounselling">counselling</a></td> <td>A facility where health counselling is provided, e.g. dietitian, nutrition, addiction.</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 465 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">366 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">5 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dnurse">nurse</a></td> <td>A facility where a trained health professional (nurse) provides healthcare, who is not a physician</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 814 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">77 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">0 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Doptometrist">optometrist</a></td> <td>An optometrist's office</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">2 804 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">804 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">3 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dpodiatrist">podiatrist</a></td> <td>A podiatrist's office</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">2 454 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">281 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">0 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dpsychotherapist">psychotherapist</a></td> <td>An office of a psychotherapist or clinical psychologist.</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">4 612 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">477 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">12 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Drehabilitation">rehabilitation</a></td> <td>Medical rehabilitation facility, usually inpatient or residential</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 315 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 636 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">135 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dsample_collection">sample_collection</a></td> <td>Site or dedicated healthcare facility where samples of blood/urine/etc are obtained or collected for purpose of analyzing them for healthcare diagnostics</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 305 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">121 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">0 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> <tr> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Ahealthcare">healthcare</a></td> <td><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Ahealthcare%3Dspeech_therapist">speech_therapist</a></td> <td>A speech therapist, a health specialist who deals with speech, voice, swallowing or hearing impairment.</td> <td> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">1 573 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/node.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">133 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/way.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> <div style="text-align: right; white-space: nowrap;">0 <img src="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/img/types/relation.svg" width="16" height="16"> </div> </td> </tr> </tbody> </table>
biodranik commented 2022-11-11 12:04:36 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Thanks for your work! I would also add some types that are more rare, but still are often needed/used by people, even with some kind of generic icon (or even without an icon, just to be searchable).

When it is easy to add a missing POI to the map, some rare types may become more popular.

Thanks for your work! I would also add some types that are more rare, but still are often needed/used by people, even with some kind of generic icon (or even without an icon, just to be searchable). When it is easy to add a missing POI to the map, some rare types may become more popular.
MrMime commented 2022-11-13 17:33:57 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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So I created some icons, let's discuss them.
Please let me know what you think, I am happy for every feedback.
And don't hesitate to let me know if you dislike something.

Tag Icon Source
alternative drawio: "Signs" icon set
blood donation Selfmade
optometrist drawio
podiatrist Selfmade
psychotherapist Selfmade
sample_collection Selfmade
speach_therapist Selfmade
audiologist tablericons

General icon

For all other categories I had no good ideas on how to express the place as an icon.
So I thought of an generic icon and came up with these two ideas.
I prefer the first one, as the second one looks like love or something is involved because of the hearth.

Generic 1 Generic 2
So I created some icons, let's discuss them. Please let me know what you think, I am happy for every feedback. And don't hesitate to let me know if you dislike something. | Tag | Icon | Source | | --- | --- | --- | | alternative | <img src="/uploads/1653337ef96533db53cd0570d31949e7/201534885-2d2f3ae7-093c-4529-86b1-9a90f820c916.svg" width=100px /> | drawio: "Signs" icon set | | blood donation | <img src="/uploads/881e0649c7ec25cf3b3a517b221f009c/201535352-5b47f51f-ea75-4197-8fd2-fa2efa8205f7.svg" width=100px /> | Selfmade | | optometrist | <img src="/uploads/9f88305e8a7373f30383151658ed8e48/201535373-db19e5e5-eca2-434f-b5b8-11c8f76a3543.svg" width=100px /> | drawio | | podiatrist | <img src="/uploads/26d10e70fccc7c6d37b9dc427d3ff4f5/201535193-30bff053-283b-4170-b630-02637f7e4e94.svg" width=100px /> | Selfmade | | psychotherapist | <img src="/uploads/9e3f50e131461afb6792a9166e659d4e/201535205-1c1f635a-2b6f-4479-a54b-b178753bd88e.svg" width=100px /> | Selfmade | | sample_collection | <img src="/uploads/46a18e38a642cfc92ecf91771be69399/201535216-519ef175-2d0d-4415-adeb-21dec357db90.svg" width=100px /> | Selfmade | | speach_therapist | <img src="/uploads/6ec70b7c1b619c193fdd9e3fe73a7077/201535232-fde7f21d-3505-4df8-a23e-a19efa1aca28.svg" width=100px /> | Selfmade | | audiologist | <img src="/uploads/e9b0f2c1a984a3b41d2ce3ad8d0d936d/201535400-c01c5daf-aed8-4e25-aec1-6104f10d17ff.svg" width=100px /> | [tablericons](https://tablericons.com/) | #### General icon For all other categories I had no good ideas on how to express the place as an icon. So I thought of an generic icon and came up with these two ideas. I prefer the first one, as the second one looks like love or something is involved because of the hearth. | Generic 1 | Generic 2 | | --- | --- | | <img src="/uploads/d94f6c660446f8b92cf5f07c67de5b43/201535610-7a52411f-084a-4ea9-9a33-d699ac123db9.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/74acde20e11962fc0782ef5c0fb1d865/201535632-c9578349-ed3f-450e-a021-71531ca84e03.svg" width=100ox /> |
biodranik commented 2022-11-13 19:50:47 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Your icons are good, but they won't be recognisable on devices with smaller screens. It would be great to simplify them as much as possible and enlarge the central part. The minimum supported resolution now is 18x18 pixels. Try to render it and see if it looks recognizable.

Also, man and woman look similar to a toilet...

Your icons are good, but they won't be recognisable on devices with smaller screens. It would be great to simplify them as much as possible and enlarge the central part. The minimum supported resolution now is 18x18 pixels. Try to render it and see if it looks recognizable. Also, man and woman look similar to a toilet...
MrMime commented 2022-11-15 20:50:35 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Reduced details and simplified them.
IMO way better to identify them.

Below you see the parts at different seizes. (from what I saw are the common ones used in OM)

Feedback is welcome

Tag new (18px, 24px) old (18px, 24px)
alternative
blood donation
optometrist
podiatrist
psychotherapist
sample_collection
speach_therapist
audiologist
Reduced details and simplified them. IMO way better to identify them. Below you see the parts at different seizes. (from what I saw are the common ones used in OM) Feedback is welcome | Tag | new (18px, 24px) | old (18px, 24px) | | --- | --- | --- | | alternative | <img src="/uploads/ac1484af54da2624093362d70d3278eb/202018737-0b90c0bb-bb02-4fa4-b970-161e9bc22eea.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/ac1484af54da2624093362d70d3278eb/202018737-0b90c0bb-bb02-4fa4-b970-161e9bc22eea.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/9ea9e65fb9bb3c63c95b70418acfef8a/201534885-2d2f3ae7-093c-4529-86b1-9a90f820c916.svg" width=18 /> <img src="/uploads/9ea9e65fb9bb3c63c95b70418acfef8a/201534885-2d2f3ae7-093c-4529-86b1-9a90f820c916.svg" width=24px /> | | blood donation | <img src="/uploads/3eee0c7bc6d91958432682739c9322ed/202018878-3feebff9-87d1-4e90-9c1d-2013b4201be6.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/3eee0c7bc6d91958432682739c9322ed/202018878-3feebff9-87d1-4e90-9c1d-2013b4201be6.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/dd9907a30d8096e3c9650d519a5369ab/201535352-5b47f51f-ea75-4197-8fd2-fa2efa8205f7.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/dd9907a30d8096e3c9650d519a5369ab/201535352-5b47f51f-ea75-4197-8fd2-fa2efa8205f7.svg" width=24px /> | | optometrist | <img src="/uploads/d26d62d4787b20c8bd3e9c470cbaeec4/202019693-bdfdf7a7-cd5c-4749-be9d-1d34e41837d7.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/d26d62d4787b20c8bd3e9c470cbaeec4/202019693-bdfdf7a7-cd5c-4749-be9d-1d34e41837d7.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/536ed018b4619160726e0bf58f6a0345/201535373-db19e5e5-eca2-434f-b5b8-11c8f76a3543.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/536ed018b4619160726e0bf58f6a0345/201535373-db19e5e5-eca2-434f-b5b8-11c8f76a3543.svg" width=24px /> | | podiatrist | <img src="/uploads/eadd4becfd4672190d191bf66b929b1d/202020290-94482815-cef8-4bda-97cf-ee9e2202a56b.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/eadd4becfd4672190d191bf66b929b1d/202020290-94482815-cef8-4bda-97cf-ee9e2202a56b.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/7a595393dfcb613ad75a925a0e446537/201535193-30bff053-283b-4170-b630-02637f7e4e94.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/7a595393dfcb613ad75a925a0e446537/201535193-30bff053-283b-4170-b630-02637f7e4e94.svg" width=24px /> | | psychotherapist | <img src="/uploads/c0dd61e8f0a509529a70086926d27e33/202021173-d7a90a18-fd56-44d6-bd98-5639ce6f7b6f.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/c0dd61e8f0a509529a70086926d27e33/202021173-d7a90a18-fd56-44d6-bd98-5639ce6f7b6f.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/51faa467e037e2e9c54167b20a6a3ac6/201535205-1c1f635a-2b6f-4479-a54b-b178753bd88e.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/51faa467e037e2e9c54167b20a6a3ac6/201535205-1c1f635a-2b6f-4479-a54b-b178753bd88e.svg" width=24px /> | | sample_collection | <img src="/uploads/e23e7a87a31c400e046c44b0785cb54e/202018975-1c979a76-7abf-42f8-bc46-3d37e323be7e.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/e23e7a87a31c400e046c44b0785cb54e/202018975-1c979a76-7abf-42f8-bc46-3d37e323be7e.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/27781dfaa9c3d75812f5792327082e72/201535216-519ef175-2d0d-4415-adeb-21dec357db90.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/27781dfaa9c3d75812f5792327082e72/201535216-519ef175-2d0d-4415-adeb-21dec357db90.svg" width=24px /> | | speach_therapist | <img src="/uploads/434e3be3e37d8dc42754d9f2dea36a81/202019190-3fff8e95-9c1b-4628-bc68-580279cd695d.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/434e3be3e37d8dc42754d9f2dea36a81/202019190-3fff8e95-9c1b-4628-bc68-580279cd695d.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/7b26d2e00723393e368d9bb08c62e58c/201535232-fde7f21d-3505-4df8-a23e-a19efa1aca28.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/7b26d2e00723393e368d9bb08c62e58c/201535232-fde7f21d-3505-4df8-a23e-a19efa1aca28.svg" width=24px /> | | audiologist | <img src="/uploads/fa39ae743456302888339a92ff1d1c75/202019068-7d5f1804-1b13-4793-ac5e-91ddb7728760.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/fa39ae743456302888339a92ff1d1c75/202019068-7d5f1804-1b13-4793-ac5e-91ddb7728760.svg" width=24px /> | <img src="/uploads/6f11ad929f95b8fe3cc6b5eedbc9f1ad/201535400-c01c5daf-aed8-4e25-aec1-6104f10d17ff.svg" width=18px /> <img src="/uploads/6f11ad929f95b8fe3cc6b5eedbc9f1ad/201535400-c01c5daf-aed8-4e25-aec1-6104f10d17ff.svg" width=24px /> |
biodranik commented 2022-11-15 22:27:58 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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  • Blood donation is similar to our water, but it is in the red circle. Ok.
  • The ear is not very recognizable.
  • Does it make sense to reuse the laboratory icon for sample collection? The current one could be better, maybe by filling it and using rounded bottom. Or draw several sample tubes.
  • Speech therapist's beard doesn't look recognizable.
  • Psychotherapist is an interesting one, can it be improved somehow?
  • What about the massage and physiotherapy icon? They are also popular.
- Blood donation is similar to our water, but it is in the red circle. Ok. - The ear is not very recognizable. - Does it make sense to reuse the laboratory icon for sample collection? The current one could be better, maybe by filling it and using rounded bottom. Or draw several sample tubes. - Speech therapist's beard doesn't look recognizable. - Psychotherapist is an interesting one, can it be improved somehow? - What about the massage and physiotherapy icon? They are also popular.
Outlet2048 commented 2022-11-15 22:40:28 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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I think the ear is recognizable

But I can't seem to find a beard in this speech therapist one
Looks more like a open mound to me

I think the ear is recognizable But I can't seem to find a beard in this speech therapist one Looks more like a open mound to me
biodranik commented 2022-11-15 22:42:07 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Beard is a wrong word ) It looks non-human.

Beard is a wrong word ) It looks non-human.
MrMime commented 2022-11-15 22:44:56 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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  • The ear is not very recognizable.

I'll have a look on how to improve it.

  • Does it make sense to reuse the laboratory icon for sample collection? The current one could be better, maybe by filling it and using rounded bottom. Or draw several sample tubes.

Right now laboratory uses the hospital icon (red cross), but the new sample_collection icon could be used for the laboratory.
I'll create some variations for it (round bottom, filled, multiple tubes.
But I think multiple tubes might be to small in the end... lets see.

  • Psychotherapist is an interesting one, can it be improved somehow?

Good question :D, at the moment I am out of ideas for this one

  • What about the massage and physiotherapy icon? They are also popular.
    Not sure what exactly you mean here?
    Physiotherapy was added here: 11a672f4cc
    And I have already thought about adding a proper icon for massage (right now the sauna icon is used), but for me this is something for its own. As it is not related to the healthcare stuff in here.
> * The ear is not very recognizable. I'll have a look on how to improve it. > * Does it make sense to reuse the laboratory icon for sample collection? The current one could be better, maybe by filling it and using rounded bottom. Or draw several sample tubes. Right now laboratory uses the hospital icon (red cross), but the new `sample_collection` icon could be used for the laboratory. I'll create some variations for it (round bottom, filled, multiple tubes. But I think multiple tubes might be to small in the end... lets see. > * Psychotherapist is an interesting one, can it be improved somehow? Good question :D, at the moment I am out of ideas for this one > * What about the massage and physiotherapy icon? They are also popular. Not sure what exactly you mean here? Physiotherapy was added here: 11a672f4ccfea282e9c346c1da81668bf331d93f And I have already thought about adding a proper icon for `massage` (right now the `sauna` icon is used), but for me this is something for its own. As it is not related to the `healthcare` stuff in here.
MrMime commented 2022-11-15 23:02:15 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Beard is a wrong word ) It looks non-human.

Would you prefer something like this, with the whole head filled?
(just an extra quick mockup)

Big 18px 24px
> Beard is a wrong word ) It looks non-human. Would you prefer something like this, with the whole head filled? (just an extra quick mockup) | Big | 18px | 24px | | --- | --- | --- | | <img src="/uploads/d186a50c4b09907e9153c147f99b9ef6/202042611-50af31a6-b3c3-4321-9374-4e0b4679a504.png" width=200px /> | <img src="/uploads/d186a50c4b09907e9153c147f99b9ef6/202042611-50af31a6-b3c3-4321-9374-4e0b4679a504.png" width=18px /> | <img src="/uploads/d186a50c4b09907e9153c147f99b9ef6/202042611-50af31a6-b3c3-4321-9374-4e0b4679a504.png" width=24px /> |
biodranik commented 2022-11-16 09:51:19 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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  1. You're right, let's reuse your samples icon also for the lab.
  2. One recognisable tube should be enough I assume. Maybe just fill it and make the bottom rounded. Or maybe shape it like this:
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  3. There are many similar icons that should be clear for users. Let's see them all together, and decide if they are unique enough so users can understand what is there without a hint: physiotherapist, massage, psychotherapist, sauna. Maybe something else?
  4. No need to draw the full head for audio. Maybe the filled face part would be enough.
1. You're right, let's reuse your samples icon also for the lab. 2. One recognisable tube should be enough I assume. Maybe just fill it and make the bottom rounded. Or maybe shape it like this: ![image](/uploads/9f38b2a65dbe24401977644a7351a607/202146996-25bd5f4c-b06e-4367-9dcc-0298d3c65fce.png) 3. There are many _similar_ icons that should be clear for users. Let's see them all together, and decide if they are unique enough so users can understand what is there without a hint: physiotherapist, massage, psychotherapist, sauna. Maybe something else? 4. No need to draw the full head for audio. Maybe the filled face part would be enough.
MrMime commented 2022-11-16 19:52:47 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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  1. reuse sample icon for lab

Noted will do so when icons are ready and I add them.

  1. samples icon shape and filling

I would stick to the high tube, as the shape in your picture is already used for chemist. Furthermore the small high ones are more common for blood and urine samples (based on an image search).
Here are some variations:
Speaking for my self I like the third one the most.

Note Icon (100, 24, 18)px
1. Rounded the bottom
2. Filled
3. Thinner and different top
4. Rotated, but might be in conflict with the farmacy
Pharmacy for comparison with cell above
  1. Similar icons and comparison
State physiotherapist massage psychotherapist sauna
Current release NONE
With new ideas
  1. speach_therapist

Head with just the face and rest cutoff looks weird to me.
Had the idea to make one third of the icon the head, while I like it, it is very different from other icon styles.
Third one is a way simplified version, maybe this is even enough.

Face and rest cutoff 1/3 of icon is face simplified
> 1. reuse sample icon for lab Noted will do so when icons are ready and I add them. --- > 2. samples icon shape and filling I would stick to the high tube, as the shape in your picture is already used for `chemist`. Furthermore the small high ones are more common for blood and urine samples (based on an image search). Here are some variations: Speaking for my self I like the third one the most. | Note | Icon (100, 24, 18)px| | --- | --- | | 1. Rounded the bottom | <img src="/uploads/c03606dec41a8c3702bf1af6e12133a5/202260627-ddefa284-5820-49a1-9693-3f1290091735.svg" width=100px /> <img src="/uploads/c03606dec41a8c3702bf1af6e12133a5/202260627-ddefa284-5820-49a1-9693-3f1290091735.svg" width=24px /> <img src="/uploads/c03606dec41a8c3702bf1af6e12133a5/202260627-ddefa284-5820-49a1-9693-3f1290091735.svg" width=18px /> | | 2. Filled | <img src="/uploads/7f799d29e9485f1fad5091116c5d7ad6/202260971-13454e07-546a-4c8a-af5e-f9d8a4b16a8a.svg" width=100px /> <img src="/uploads/7f799d29e9485f1fad5091116c5d7ad6/202260971-13454e07-546a-4c8a-af5e-f9d8a4b16a8a.svg" width=24px /> <img src="/uploads/7f799d29e9485f1fad5091116c5d7ad6/202260971-13454e07-546a-4c8a-af5e-f9d8a4b16a8a.svg" width=18px /> | | 3. Thinner and different top | <img src="/uploads/79896638c2301c1e7d2932a84f9e9d01/202261207-50501707-3b31-4cbb-ae7b-587097c4bd76.svg" width=100px /> <img src="/uploads/79896638c2301c1e7d2932a84f9e9d01/202261207-50501707-3b31-4cbb-ae7b-587097c4bd76.svg" width=24px /> <img src="/uploads/79896638c2301c1e7d2932a84f9e9d01/202261207-50501707-3b31-4cbb-ae7b-587097c4bd76.svg" width=18px /> | | 4. Rotated, but might be in conflict with the farmacy | <img src="/uploads/e236a1f5829b6bc89211b42a9fab640f/202261439-5eea0c4d-f1ac-47e8-add9-275390492456.svg" width=100px /> <img src="/uploads/e236a1f5829b6bc89211b42a9fab640f/202261439-5eea0c4d-f1ac-47e8-add9-275390492456.svg" width=24px /> <img src="/uploads/e236a1f5829b6bc89211b42a9fab640f/202261439-5eea0c4d-f1ac-47e8-add9-275390492456.svg" width=18px /> | | Pharmacy for comparison with cell above | <img src="/uploads/9372ad12cad5054b31320e4249731613/202261709-5b28fd14-487a-4d7c-baab-0acb9575dba8.svg" width=100x /> <img src="/uploads/9372ad12cad5054b31320e4249731613/202261709-5b28fd14-487a-4d7c-baab-0acb9575dba8.svg" width=24px /> <img src="/uploads/9372ad12cad5054b31320e4249731613/202261709-5b28fd14-487a-4d7c-baab-0acb9575dba8.svg" width=18px /> | --- > 3. Similar icons and comparison | State | physiotherapist | massage | psychotherapist | sauna | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | Current release | <img src="/uploads/40893a80c963e5c24c34391cca30aceb/202263563-5f17f15d-d116-4b61-8b52-b3d4fffe122a.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/edd0283fe5661693a045961e2239c2d1/202263879-e3834676-b265-4bb3-8654-084072e5e092.svg" width=100px /> | NONE | <img src="/uploads/edd0283fe5661693a045961e2239c2d1/202263879-e3834676-b265-4bb3-8654-084072e5e092.svg" width=100px /> | | With new ideas | <img src="/uploads/40893a80c963e5c24c34391cca30aceb/202263563-5f17f15d-d116-4b61-8b52-b3d4fffe122a.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/49ee11945a88627d3bb62d2118411d4a/202278810-8f2b8500-0363-499e-b7a4-747be32b7369.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/8ad029d229f16a5e874118b039aa3d1e/202264072-7e177321-80fe-4103-848e-8675d5bfcf58.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/edd0283fe5661693a045961e2239c2d1/202263879-e3834676-b265-4bb3-8654-084072e5e092.svg" width=100px /> | --- > 4. `speach_therapist` Head with just the face and rest cutoff looks weird to me. Had the idea to make one third of the icon the head, while I like it, it is very different from other icon styles. Third one is a way simplified version, maybe this is even enough. | Face and rest cutoff | 1/3 of icon is face | simplified | --- | --- | --- | | <img src="/uploads/a812717e3cfd71645bdaac05eac411c3/202280116-75e8c053-e42c-4efa-925b-ee9f909cb084.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/e281d39aa4824cc89cc4555856bb17f5/202280242-f9285555-e20f-423d-8c7d-cb99ed200131.svg" width=100px /> | <img src="/uploads/fba4f77500105f880c90025b8eafe272/202280282-8a8be734-7c75-45bb-bfac-fb4949f4f7e3.svg" width=100px /> |
biodranik commented 2022-11-16 21:40:16 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Thanks for your efforts, that's so easy to compare now )

  1. Agree, the third tube looks better. Maybe reduce its height a bit to have more space for red background at the top and the bottom.
  2. Ok, icons are more or less different. The sauna looks complex though, is it recognizable on smaller screens?
  3. 1/3 is face looks cool )

We can move on, and then improve icons based on real feedback. I hope these icons also look great in a dark style.

Thanks for your efforts, that's so easy to compare now ) 1. Agree, the third tube looks better. Maybe reduce its height a bit to have more space for red background at the top and the bottom. 2. Ok, icons are more or less different. The sauna looks complex though, is it recognizable on smaller screens? 3. 1/3 is face looks cool ) We can move on, and then improve icons based on real feedback. I hope these icons also look great in a dark style.
MrMime commented 2022-11-16 23:11:30 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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Okay perfect.
I'll get my hands on it on the weekend.

Okay perfect. I'll get my hands on it on the weekend.
MrMime commented 2022-11-17 14:11:12 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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assigned to @Mr-Mime

assigned to `@Mr-Mime`
MrMime commented 2022-12-09 12:41:40 +00:00 (Migrated from github.com)
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mentioned in merge request !4053

mentioned in merge request !4053
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mentioned in issue #4660

mentioned in issue #4660
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